RE: kansas Rio
Plan on lots of company. Elder has some birds but gets hunted heavy by residents and non-residents alike that don't have private land to hunt on. I fish up there often and see birds but most are jakes. The residents that live in the area will have them patterened and be after them hot and heavy the first 2 weeks of season. After that you will have a better chance and less company.
Goatslayer........