RE: Well... I had to get some...
SW
Course I can not shoot any big game animals with it until Septemeber but I do have a gruesome test that I will shoot them into first. If they survive that test then - I would consider using them on an elk - just got to get time to go out and run the test.
At this point - visually allI can say they look very good. How ever they are manufactued they are doing a bang-up splendid job.
If the California lead ban spreads (and I am afraid it will)they would also be another alternative to look at also.