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Old 03-13-2009 | 07:27 PM
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Default RE: WIDNR on the trail of Mt Lion, real deal!

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"Some of you on here are completely ignorant on your facts and assumptions. If we use your theories then we need to kill off just about every animal on the face of this earth."

Of course, even class A predators like a cougar have a place in this world. Just not near populated areas. And in Wisconsin, I asked someone to point out an area where the range of a mature male lion being 50-300 square miles.. tell me of one area in our State, where there is not the possibility of that lion coming into contact with human populations... well? And how many breeding pairs are you going to fit into that area? How you going to keep them there? What happens when some wander away and come into contact with humans, pets, livestock? Then when some one gets hurt, mauled, even killed, who's to blame?In my book it is the organizations that wanted them in the State in the first place.

Theproblem with the Wisconsin DNR is they have Noah's Ark Syndrome. Somehow they think its their duty to populate theState back to the way it was in the 1800's. We have elk now, an occassional moose, timber wolves, timber rattle snakes. Hey, why not a cougar population too, That would be cool.

Well people this is not the 1800's anymore. Tell me where, in the modern day Wisconsin, where populations are all over the state, that class A predators can co-exist in peaceful serenity with human populations. And that is not going to happen. Maybe one lion might be fine, but what happens when there becomes a breeding population?


" Someone who thinks cougars should be erradicated needs to do some research before they make an uneducated post. The number of people being killed by their own family pet vs. being killed by a cougar is something to ponder. In that case I better load up my shotgun and go blast my dog since he will be around my kids."

Give me a break would you. Uneducated post? If you can stand there and tell people that WILD COUGARS are not dangerous, you've been watching too many Disney Movies.. They are a class A predator. Class A predators hunt to live. And they will hunt people. Maybe not each and every time, but there is that chance. And then yourargument of trying to compare them to the family pet. Well if you're such a terrible dog trainer and only are able to train an over aggressive pet, maybe you should shoot your dog. Furthermore the dog is DOMESTICATED. It is not wild. And to compare attack numbers, another poor argument. What proximity is the family member more likely to encounter. Of course dogs. There for it would only make sense that dogs would be attacking more. But that does not take away the danger a cougar would pose to a person. My old debate coach in college used to tell me, that when you had the other side faltering, they would resort to claiming your argument was uneducated or unresearched.. so thank you.

"Give me a break people! 99% of all cougars are completely afraid of humans and will run at first sight. There is the 1% and that 1% goes for every animal on this planet."

Now who is inventing facts! How do you know 99% of cougars would fear man? Did you interview 100 cougars? Of course not. You are guessing. Would they fear children too? You make a statement without any basis.

"For all that are using the attacks on children waiting for the school bus at the end of the drive needs to find a better arguement. What's stopping the stray dog from mauling your kid to death?"

That is a very valid arguement. Children waiting for a bus would be easy prey for a cougar. And to claim they would not be is only fooling yourself. And what's stopping a stray dog from mauling the kid.. if I knew it was in my area where my kids were, and that dog so much as showed a tooth or curled a lip.. that would be one dog you would not have to worry about attacking anything but a dirt nap. Same goes for ANYTHING or anyone that would threaten my kids. Law or no law.

"I just don't get your guy's arguements."

Of course you don't because it does not fit your picture of wild country Wisconsin. Unfortunately, Wisconsin has changed over the years. And with that, we had to make adjustments. Wiping out class A predators was one way.
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