That's not comparing apples to apples. There are 3000 or so permits for residents given out each year. There are 10% or about 300 non resident permitsgiven each year. It stands to reason that there are more non residents applying for permits due to the fact that there are only so many "hunting" residents. I have heard that Larry Wieshuhn and others pay residents that don't hunt to apply and put them as alternate or subpermittees. If they win they sell the license to them. I am sure there's probably something below board but how are they going to prove it.

Granted it's pretty $h1tty odds, but what the hell, its close enough to make it worthwhile. Hopefully I'll get picked some day.

I have also heard stories about the tree company officials getting moose permits every year even though you arent supposed to get one but every three years.