i had an 870 and a nova. they where bad. they killed on both ends. its going to be a dedicated turkey gun. i figured that the auto 11-87 would have less recoil but its about $250 more. i killed 1 with the nova last year. it came in on my right and i had to swing alittle. that pinned my shoulder between the gun anda pine tree. all i could think about was" man, this is going to hurt". and it did. it killed both of us. i shoot the 3 1/2 nitros. love'm and can't put them down...........tony