I shot (actually bought) a admiral today.I was alittle suprised tha it wasnt any queiter than my 07 gaurdian-it might be just a little louder.It seemed thay the noise was coming from the string suppresser,does any body know if there is a noise dampner (like the mean v) or maybe does mean v make a replacement suppresser---Dan?maybe a softer pad? other than that the bow seemed to shoot very nice!