Naa Dan, I think we helped each other out awhile back when we were working our way thru TP problems. I'll remember that stuff from now on, besides da Cobster is the ole Master. As we both know, there's lots of wisdom hidden in his jestful post above. Don't let him fool ya, he's a crack shot. You are right again Dan (did I say that)? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>, good back tension & maintaining concentration on the spot all the way thru conclusion is the ticket against flinches for me. Bill, I never had a twitch of TP while shooting at critters, maybe adrenaline but luckily always have done fairly good on game shots. I'm a little concerned about this new &quot;target style&quot; shooting technique tho, seems like more room for error in some ways. God I love this archery stuff! Never seen anything so basically simple, yet so challenging. Sure feels great when you see that you've made some headway!!