nice reply...thanks...i am hunting with a new system i purchased this year...lonewolf hang on..it's awesome...i have the 3 sticks..the whole system weighs in at 17lbs..the stand is only 8..i attach the sticks..and i am up 15 ft or more. i will hunt wed morning..i found what that honeysuckle looks like..i will b at it in the morning on wed and hope to get something...have u seen any really big bucks?? what bow r u shooting??/