Hey Muzzyman88 I see your from the " Gap" I live in State College, I assume you frequent RMC Sports or Millers. I know The Bowhunters Shop in Warriors Mark and Clarence Archery both carry Copper John sights. Maybe one of these places could order you some. I know Clarence Archery orders most of their stuff through Kinseys, Those guys in Clarence are great to deal with, they do a great job. The guy in warriors mark is just out to keep himself in business so he can keep going on all the hunts he goes on. I currently own A Copper John Dead Nuts Pro with the .019 pins and they are great. I think you' ll like them alot. In fact i' ll be out your way tonight. Have to go coach a team of 9-10yearolds from Bellefonte at a baseball tournament at Marion Walker.