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Old 02-18-2009 | 06:03 PM
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Riverboss,

For goodness sake man, try using some punctuation! [:@]

i work in a field that is controled buy insurance companys and it has gottin out of control. they have gotten to big and control every thing, i have watched my pay go down and down ,enough is enough .
Let me guess... healthcare? And socialized medicine will help that you think? My mom is a nurse, and tends to vote liberal, and she's even dead set against that because it'll WRECK the healthcare system.

the last 8 years alot of people lost there jobs,
I guess perception and propaganda are more important than truth these days. Here are the average unemployment stats for 2001-2008 under Bush's watch:

2001 - 4.7%, 2002 - 5.8%, 2003 - 6.0%, 2004 - 5.5%, 2005 - 5.1%, 2006 - 4.6%, 2007 - 4.6%, 2008 - 1Q: 4.9%, 2Q: 5.4%, 3Q: 6.0%, 4Q: 6.9% (source: Bureau of Labor Statistics)

As we can see clearly, excepting the brief post-9/11 recession, the unemployment rates have stayed under 5.5% and steady under Bush's term, with the exception of the last 2 quarters of 2008. So "alot of people" really weren't losing their jobs for 8 years, just in the last 2 quarters of his term. Keep in mind that most macro-economists consider "full employment" to be any rate between roughly 4.5-6.5%.

but some put 20 yrs in a job that were let go and never had a chance.
Losing ones job sucks, but after 20 years I'd hope that person had a little to fall back on. And it doesn't happen as often as people think. As you said, it should be about neighbors helping neighbors... not about big government. What's better, a good or even great job that allows you to flourish in the private sector with the risk that you might lose it someday, or a crappy government job and a cradle-to-grave welfare state where everyone just gets by while permanently subjugating you to virtual government slavery. I, personally, will take my chances on liberty.

Mike
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