I would highly recommend summit stands. I have the ultimate viper ss and its great. It is the lightest most comfortable stand I have ever used. I have sat in it for 8 hours on one hunt and never hurt. Its like sitting in a recliner!Summit's customer service is second to none and they definitely stand by their product. The clip on the backpack strap broke and called prepared to buy another one. Tp my surprise they ask for my shipping information and told me it would be shipped within 2 days at no expense to me.