Thank's Chasam and all the rest of you's for your input. I have decided on 10mm 200gr XTP and 80gr of Tf2f, I'll see how that works for her and go from there, and mabey even the 240gr XTP with the same load +or- on the powder, I'll play with the powder a little. Im sure she'll be Happy with either one and I'll let you know how she likes it and send in some pics of her groups. Thank's to everyone for their comments. BP