The big problem I have is that all my camo is mossy oak right now. I don't want to spend $500 on a new pattern although I like a few of the patterns I've been looking at (ASAT, Ultimate, and MOTreestand). I'm leaning toward ASAT because I can buy a suit and wear it over my existing insulated camo clothing. I have some nice insulated bibbs and jacket I got last year that keep me good and warm. I'm not going to throw them away I just need to cover them up. That's my hang up with both Ultimate and MOTreestand.