RE: Full inclusion for PA
outsider, I wonder what they say about the type of MZ like I have. I have the savage 10ml II that shoots smokeless powders and I can get velocities with 250 gr bullets of over 2500 fps. So you are right that they can be like rifles. If they are not allowed it might not be too far off. But I have to say I love this MZ. My new load I am going to be working on is the Barnes origional .458 300 gr ssp. Powder will be N120. I should be able to get this to about 2350 fps. So modern MZing is even more modern than most people think.
Can you imagine what the people would say if my Savage 10ml II was allowed with smokeless powder I think PA would explode.
Brian