thank you very much just to give you a little more on the gun it is a mauser action that has be jeweled and all that fun stuff it is a 30 in hart barrel with a 1-8 twist not been fired alot it has a very nice peice of wood will post pictures soon the barrel tapers from around 1.35 down to .85 very clean gun if you have any new info or help im looking for all i can find and i will try that fireforming trick thank you again for all the help