ok too much lube was the problem.
next
falcon you say the chambers are sloppy and not to FL resize but my spent brass is shorter and smaller than specs, after resizing it came right back to specs not even needing to length trim.
these were shot out of my NEF.
You guys have to bare with me, I ordered a couple of books along with some supplies, been reading a bit on the internet but thats it so far.
All I did yesterday was deprime and resize. havent loaded anything yet.