Thank's, that cleared things up! Mabey I heard it was the 6000Foot Pounds of Energy Produced, that had to have been it, they talked really fast at the end of the show. Not something I would consider to own though, the recoil would'nt bother me as Im 6'6" and 240lbs or the heavier gun, actually I pefer a heavier gun also, it absorbs more recoil. Thank's for the info. BP