I have heard about them and they are amazing. Expensive also. One post I read, the standard load was four pellets and a Barnes I believe it was. They were talking about them over on MM.

Actually I kind of dread seeing such a post, as that is exactly the kind of fuel the anti inline people love to scream about. Even though most hunters can not shoot anywhere near those distance or with that kind of power. Or even afford those kind of rifles. BUT in their rants they always leave some of less important facts out.

If any rifle gets muzzleloaders moved out of the black powder season, these would be one of them. In a way, I am kind of happy that Wisconsin does not allow powered scopes in their muzzleloader season. Believe me, with out optics, your rifle might be a bad bull but your eyes in my case are still old and have glasses in front of them (that like to slip down my nose at the range) to help me focus. I can only shoot as well as I can see.