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Old 02-06-2009 | 11:18 AM
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hometheaterman
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Default RE: Dog hunting outlaws

doubt it has much of anything to do with dog runners. You have inconsiderate rednecks on your hands, and they should be dealt with firmly. But just understand that quite often in VA someone who is trying to retrieve their dogs really is doing just that..... just getting their dogs and trying to get the heck out of there.
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And you wounder why farmers and ranchers dont like these things? Getting irrigation pipe ran over, wells shot for the fun of it, unauthorized dogs. Things sure must be different in your part of the country. Here you come onto someones property without permission, trespass, with a gun your poaching, looking in my barns, your stealing and I have every right to draw down on you and hold you till the sheriff or game warden gets there. Killing your dog that you are responcible for, well just a kindness as have you ever seen what the yotes do to them?
If you as a hunter were to contact me asap for my permission to come on my place I might even help look but just to do it or I see some dog just running on the place..... just another stray.
The laws are a little different in VA Who.

Just say for a moment that you lived in VA.. take your whole operation and move it to VA east of the mountains. If someone KNOWS (that is the key word) that their hunting dogis currently on your property, then they may, without your permission, go on foot and UNARMED to retrieve it. Its the Right to Retrieve law.

That said, there are plenty of loopholes in that general law and that is where you'll have a lot of conflicts.

There are a lot of instances you'll read about, and please understand that by and large this is a small minority of people doing this in VA. Most dog running clubs are law abiding, considerate and respectful hunters. Like anything else... its 5% of the population causing 95% of the problem.

Thanks in part to Michael Vick also, killing a dog in the state of VA is a felony. I am not totally aware if it is still legal to shoot a dog that is actively harrassing your livestock or not, but I know it was once allowed and is allowed in most states throughout the country, and especially out west.

If someone in Texas is shooting up your property, I doubt it has much of anything to do with dog runners. You have inconsiderate rednecks on your hands, and they should be dealt with firmly. But just understand that quite often in VA someone who is trying to retrieve their dogs really is doing just that..... just getting their dogs and trying to get the heck out of there.
I hunt in VA so that's the laws I'm familiar also.

I highly agree. If your property is getting shot up I would highly doubt it's dog hunters and if it is it's one of the few bad apples. I've never seen anyone going to retrieve their dogs cause any other problems unless the owner is just mad about them hunting in that area. I have seen that often times someone is mad of us hunting in a area that they own land near even though we aren't on their land. We had a guy that owned some land and a house next to the fields we were hunting in and he kept complaining and calling the sheriffs office complaining even though we weren't on his land. Just because we were near it. He told one of the guys that the shooting was scaring his animals. I don't want to scare his animals but at the same time I'm not going to stop hunting on land that we have permission to hunt on just because he owns a small portion of land next to it. I'm not even sure where his animals are as I've never seen them but he said we were scaring them. It's people like that who complain and make dog hunters sound bad when in reality it's that they just don't like hunters anywhere near them or their land. I don't go on his land but I'm not going to stay off the land I do have permission to hunt on just because he doesn't like it.


As for the retrieving dogs not sure what goes on there but it's nothing like that here. It's like said above. You usually walk on get your dog and walk back off. It's not a big deal. It is however, a big deal when a dog that can't tell your land is posted runs across your land and you shoot him.
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