I have the Comfortmax & Liteloft lined Wolfskin jacket and bibs. I do the same as Todd. Long underwear, fleece, then the outer garments. I hunted in IA last year with temps in the single digits and 20+ mph winds and was fine. There is a huge difference when you have a garment that doesn't let ANY wind penetrate!!! I went with the double-knees and double-butt on my bibs and am glad I did. I also have the same stuff in a hand-warmer muff and it works great to throw a couple chemical handwarmers in and then you can get away with lighter gloves. I have one of the goofy Elmer Fudd type hats by Gray Wolf also, but it is WARM!!!

Good luck!

Mark