This is got me wondering, I just read a forum where Cayugad and Sabotloader were talking about cleaning ML's. I think they mentioned that they dont use a Brass Brush for cleaning their ML's unless they shot conicals, then the brush would be used to remove the lead. I have alway's used a brass brush at first to remove the most of the fowling from the barrel, then followed up with No13 Bore Cleaner, then oiled. Am I wrong to use the brass brush if I done shoot conicals and just use sabots? Will just patches remove the plastic left in the bore from the sabots? Will the brass brush harm the barrel? say wear it out? I did'nt think so as I thought brass was softer than the barrel and would'nt hurt it. Who's right and who's wrong? or does'nt it matter? Ron