We' re about 3 hrs north of Pittsburgh. Up here we have high populations and a good amount of pressure , but there are lots of bigger bucks( up to 140) and a few larger .There are 3 that we' ve taken over the last 2 yrs on our web page http://pennsyltuckyoutdoors.tripod.com . I' ve seen larger deer on here but these are good for here. We now are really concetrating on these larger deer. All three deer were under 4. My partner just aquired an awesome swamp property that I' m sure hold deer that may not have ever been seen!!!! We already have sights set on a couple in the 20" catagory and several not too far off. We' ve even been watching a double drop tine buck ,so this year should be banner!!!!