Rich,Try SGL 93 and 77.Both have a ton of deer.I didn't hunt deer there this year but did hunt turkey alot in both places.I saw on average at least a dozen deer each morning I went out.I ride horses on SGL 93 quite a bit and see plenty of deer.I hunted the first day and the first saturday of rifle season on Evans fire tower rd in Penfield.All public land,few hunters and plenty of deer.I also spend alot of time on Seneca resource property,which runs into Moshannon state forest.I didn't hunt deer on it this year because I was late sending in for dmap's.Last year and the year before I killed two deer and saw loads in there.I walkedsome of that property after Christmas and saw sign all over the place.It's timber company land but it's dmap'dand open to the public.I also see deer everytime I hunt in Sinnemahoning.That's tough country up there but it keeps pressure to a minimum.Seriously Rich,there's good hunting all over this area on public land.You just have to stay away from the areas with no food,like Rockton mountain and SB elliot.Give me a call,the next time your at camp and I'll show you all of these places.