glob...you make a great point with the no pay, next drawing/left-over comment. Idaho does that with controlled hunt permits. If you're drawn in the first go, but don't pay for the tag, that tag goes into the second drawing...there are never any left after the second draw....I think it's a pretty good system. The other thing I like about Idaho is no pref. points. I'ma fan of having just as good a chance as everyone, year in and year out!