New61375, i said that i need to go to VA because it was said that VA has lots of land and plenty of deer and imo, PA has the opposite. I live in MI and was born and raised in SW PA. I hunt in WV also. I should have clarified my statement. For those who have plenty of deer and plenty of land to hunt, you are very fortunate. I am not complaining, I am lucky to have land to hunt on in 3 states, I just wich that it was managed property.