I have a Vortex and think it is pretty much perfect(for me). I made some 350 gr arrows and it smokes! Much faster than I want but fun to shoot. I also have the Ibex as well as a Hawke scope. Really nice scope I must say. They are well made, bright and I love the non-critical eye relief. Don't know if the Hawke is going to stay on the Ibex, I just may replace the VariXIII on the Vortex which is my main hunting bow.