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Old 01-19-2009 | 06:20 PM
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Crikey Jeff, I didn't want to hear this.. I wouldn't say the Elite is "easy" to draw, just "easier" than the rest of the hybrids I shot.
My 82nd has been turned down to 57# (60# limbs on her) here she smokes 354 grains/27.5" arrows @ 295fps, the fastest 57# bow I've owned...but I've paid the price. NeverthelessI hear ya on backing it off, but I was reallyreluctant doing this during the season as then it meant resighting the pins, fiddling with the tuning a tad, maybe even shifting my peep and resquaring my d-loop. Honestly The bow was too much on than to go start trouble in the prime of the season. Towards the end I reverted to the Guardian...then it seemed forever for the arrow to hit the target.
The reality is, it takes poundage to generate real speed...obviously I can't have my cake and eat it too.

Good luck tuning your baby...would respectfullyappreciate to hear howshe settles in after the run in.
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Yeah poundage or draw length. Some guy over on the Elite Forum is shooting CT Rhinos in the 530 gr range at 300 FPS with a 32" draw on their 8" brace bow.

I ordered up a new custom string and cables from someone who was reccomended at AT and the Elite forums, so I'll just get the cams pretty close for now, and fine tune once I get the new stuff. sounds like I should pick up 5 or 6 FPS/ not a big deal, but.

When I think "easy" draw, I think Hoyt's original Command & Control Cams (from the early 90s), Hoyt's A(dvance) Cams from the late 90s, wheel type stuff. The Mathews MQ1, Q2, BT Freedom cam, or the king of smooth and easy: Oneida AeroForce.

None of the current cams I tried are "easy", IMO- they are all "hard cams"- The Hoyts & Elite's draw more like the Darton CPS, peaks early and smoothly, lets off smoothly( sometimes late in the draw cycle, but still smoothly). Most of the other bows I tried last week just built up continously-peaking late and then slamming abruptly over near the wall-it was very...machine like? Kinda like manually cocking a crossbow.

It was very disappointing to me. I suppose if I had not been absent for a few years I would have gradually gotten used to it - and this may annoy or upset some of my former colleagues (I apologize in advance if it does guys) but I was really shocked at the new BTs with CP risers. Truly disappointed. I did NOT expect that kind of draw AT ALL . Before I was with BT, and when I was on the staff, a common criticism people were voicing (including myself) was "the speed is awesome, but smooth the cams out and get the noise down and you guys will really take off" (along with more aesthetically appealing machine work)- and they got as little better each year and in 2004 they REALLY got it right. AFAIC, now they are back to square one with the draw cycles!!!?????[:'(] Makes no sense to me , but they are doing well so who am I to to question it? I

They aren't the only ones though- The newer Mathews were pretty dissapointing- far cry from the old Outback, legacy and Q series. The PSE X-force and Xforce SS? Talk about marketing hype-I was totally sucker-punched there

I've rambled enough.
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