Thank's for your thoughts, that's exactly how I feel also. I love this forum, as you said the guys on it try all the new stuff combind with the old and give their opinions on what works for them and does'nt. It sure helps us a-lot on deciding what to use or nor to. I guess what I was trying to say in my long opening letter is, once we find that perfect set up should we leave it alone?.......should we fix it if it is'nt broke?