Yep that is what i was lokin for buck , thanks again , seems ur the brain on this subject. And to wimp im just tryin to say they r dumb for how much of an extra hastle it is to mail in for doe tags, we now have to mail to harrisburg , then they mail it whereever and all this and u have to look at what WMU ur gonna hunt , and what if i wanted to hunt the other side of my county at a friends camp or somethin , well now i have to get a whole seperate tag rather then just use my normal county tag. but just my opinion.