Then you haven't tried the Cranford one piece screw in. They go in so easy is it ridiculous. There simply is not "labor" involved. Yes, I have some Lone Wolf sticks so I can compare.I would put them at pretty much equal effort and time to get from the ground to hanging the stand.

Also, I have seen several forestry guys postthat there is no perm damage associated with screw ins and no one shouldfeelbad for using them in any tree type. Actually, a couple of them went into much more detail than that withsome technical names of the tree's layers and such, but...can't say I remember that stuff.