Update on my Muzzy. After getting some rest, I checked out my set up. I really like the guy that helps you set up the rest on the video and he can shoot 10 times better than I can but I found some things he was not real clear on. I think after you put about 100 rests on, you forget the little things. I found that setting the stop screw to hit in the center of the stop and not just going by a measurement worked better. The paper with the rest says to cut the threaded rod 3 3/4" and screw it out 2 1/2 " from center of hole. The video said to just turn it a few turns. I found it worked a lot better if you go by the instructions. You may have to make some small adjustements but I found them to be very small. After making the changes, my rest was much quieter and smoother working. I always have said I would not buy a bow you could not put a Muzzy zero effect on because it is the best rest I have ever used IMHO[:-]. Don