ORIGINAL: Pygmy

Any 30-30 factory load designed for deer hunting ( which includes almost all of them except the Rem Xcellerator) will drop ANY whitetail, mule deer, or blacktail on this continent with a solid shoulder shot...

We're talking DEER here, not moose or elk, although many moose and elk have dropped to shoulder shots from the 30-30 also , and they are a LOT bigger than deer..