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Old 01-01-2009 | 09:03 PM
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Default RE: FLINTLOCK SEASON IN PA.WMU2G

Sproul,
I'm absolutely NOT exagerrating, and luck has nothing to do with it.

What you need to understand is the concept of "yarding". There are very specific places where these deer go when conditions dictate and they go there in large numbers at this time of year. These are areas that we can count on to provide natural movement and opportunities at unspooked deer which is the reason we don't push these areas. We leave them alone and either still hunt or sit them, we slip in as silently as possible using the wind to our advantage.

We push the outlying areas far away from where we want to sit in the evenings to keep the deer on as natural of a pattern as possible.
Even on the outlying pushes we get deer out but not nearly in the numbers we see in the concentrated spots.
They aren't in those numbers all over the area but we still got deer out on every push with marginal sign.
There are areas where you can go hundreds of yards without cutting a single track..........then there are others where you could literally trip over their dug in trails.
It's a pretty simple process of elimination.

The area that my friends jumped 25-30 deer out of going in at 1PM had deer sign I'm certain that you could see from a helicopter.

It's a matter of knowing what the deer need.......find the areas that provide it andthey will draw deer in like a magnet.
We all have laminated topo maps, and GPS and a healthy dose of knowing the area for almost 20 years. We move around, we find the deer, we hunt them smart. We don't sit on the same sidehill day after day year after year because someone shot 4 bucks in a row for 4 straight years back in the mid 1980's.
HUnting is different up there no doubt but there are plenty of deer to hunt if you want to find them.Many guys aren't willing to look at a topographic map and then dedicate 45 minutes to an hour to hike back into the area and see whats there.
WE do.

We had 4 guys in camp for rifle season and 2 shot bucks in 3 days. One guyonly hunted the first morningbecause he had the flu. Plenty of does were spotted.

You can site all the history of the area and the people who live there all you want.........if they aren't willing to look around or change the way they've hunted for 50 years sure they might be frustrated.

I'd rather see deer.


Edit:
I forgot this classic example of how many "camp" guys hunt.

Second day of the rifle season this year one of our guys was hiking out a ridge around 10:00AM and had worked his way to another nearby camp.
He knows some of the guys and knocked on the door only to find EVERY seat in the cabin filled with somebody's butt.
When he walked in and saw everybody sitting around he greeted them with a big "CONGRATULATIONS!! Everybody got a buck!?"
(since everybody was already back at camp this early )

Said there had to be 12 guys sitting around grumbling about the lack of deer.

The morning of the SECOND DAY.
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