I guess hardcorehunter is not the only one 'out of the loop' as I had not heard this story before either. I recently purchases a new bow (Captain) but in the research process saw that the Elite bows produce amazing speeds with forgiving brace heights. Between that research and the hype on the Elite bows I was, to say the least, highly interested. But as it turns out, my bow shop (that has a trade-in program) does not carry Elite. After reading this thread, I'm not sure what to think..... Maybe I'm not really dissapointed that my bow shop doesn't carry Elite bows. On the other hand, I have about ZERO belief in the genuine integrity of anything involving a corporation and dollars.