"Opinion polls are totally meaningless unless they are done in a manner that they collect an unbiased sampling of unbiased questions. "

Many unbiased questions were posed on the surveys I cited. The people were either for it or against it. I think the outcome was clear. Also I dont believe for one second that if the exact same question was posed to the exact same people thattook the poll...and instead it was done by phoneor mailand sent out by ANYONE else other than the authors of the original polls,that the response wouldve been one lick different.... It wouldnt have.

"The polls you quoted don’t fit the billing of unbiased on either of those fronts."

Sure they do.They were also on completely open to the public forums that don't limit members or censor the topic in any way, not to mention surveys from SEVERAL sites, all garnering the same results.

"That is the reason professional polling firms are contracted by the various agencies to get the true results of what the public does or doesn’t support"

No. They are implemented 9 times out of ten to get a desired result. Instead of asking something like DO YOU OR DONT YOU SUPPORT HR? Pgc would be slick and have them ask...Do you think thedeer herd health should be a concern? And when 99% including myself say YES, they then point to that as support! Thatspure manipulative b.s. that thoroughly avoids the malignant issues.

"When I get time I will dig up the results of some of the more recent professional and unbiased and polls dealing with subjects of interest for deer hunters."

In case you havent noticed, the topic of this thread, and what most of the polls I cited are about is also what is currently causing most of our problems and thats why I posted about THAT and not "other subjects of interest to deer hunters"... Since there are thing that I am not against even myself. I posted about what I see as the biggest problem currently, and I think many others feel likewise. It is THEE issue that has most hunters p-o-ed. It is preventing a license fee increase, and caused alot of other maleffect. For pgc even to waste their breathaddressing OTHER issues and ignore the actual problem is absurd.

Also, I have seen some of the more recent polls referred to already. VERY vague questions that 100% avoid the real issues that our sportsmen are currently thouroughly disgusted about. These polls citedHERE are 100% parallell to what I see and hear anywhere I go throughout the year.

Theseopinions werent bought and paid for or manipulated by vaguenonsensical lines of questioning or cleverly worded. And there was no deceit involved. Just straight forward questions answered by hunters.

Have Pgc ask hunters if they want to have the herd level addressed (increased). Ask them straight up do they support herd reduction as is or do they want change. Ask them if they agree with pgc or think it was unnecessarily excessive. Ask them ifPGC is currently a very hunter oriented organization who are doing a good job addressing the hunters deer concerns...The response, like these, will be OVERWHELMING in anti-response. But Pgc doesnt want to hear that do they? They already KNOW it.

Btw, tell your superiors to quit wasting money on nonsense sham surveys to a tiny amount of peoplethat do nothing but insult our intelligence...Or worse yet, asking their favorite yes men organization... Spend less money on a small card with a handful of RELEVANT MEANINGFUL questions included with the license. I and I believe most Pa hunters willhappily pay for a stamp to send it in if it is shown our opinion on REAL issues is actually wanted.