At $5 a shell (yes each shell !!!!) the accutipbetter be good! I used to crap at 1/2 that price for copper solids.... I found a local gun shop that handloads Lyman 1 oz. 2 3/4" sabot slugs that clover leaf at 60 yards for $2.95 per 5. Those will work just fine for what I need... I'm going to stock a bunch of them up and have for years to come. After they run out I might start loading my own too...