"Nope,it's not debatable.DCNR asked for longer seasons,unlimited dmaps per person,the ability to transfer those tags,group hunting,baiting and rifles in all seasons.they got none of that."

Only reason I said debatable is not because they werent a major player and at least partially to blame, it was because there are also other players in the nonsense. Anyway as for dcnr, They asked for rediculous over the toptools publicly so they could get exactly what they wanted without appearing to. Theywanted one thing and one only. Reduction to the deer herd.They recieved the tools to initiate extreme and excessive reduction which is exactly what they got.

"Common and show us where DCNR has final say to rubber stamp the choice for commissioner."

I didnt say final say. Maybe YOU can show where I said that? Thought not.[:'(] HERE is what I said "Remember Dcnr must rubber stamp the commissioners in the selection process". And that is a fact. If they dont recieve the rubberstamp, they are FINISHED. They interview and they ELIMINATE any and all candidates that they do not want and thats a fact...and you know this, would rather decietfully play on words than discuss the facts.