Rich,DCNRhas taken several areas out of dmap.They won't do it however,until they have some timber sales without the ned to fence.

I find alot of uneaten acorns each year that have grubs in them.Not unusual at all.My buddy hung a stand near a red oak three years ago that was loaded.He couldn't believe not onedeer came in to feed on the thousands that were laying on the ground.I don't know why,but they were all hollow inside.Weird

BT,none of what you stated means a thing.The fact is,the state forests have many more tags and a longer season.That proves without a doubt that they're being managed at a lower dd than the rest of the state.How can you even argue with that?