Congratulations on your first ML deer, it is exciting isn't it. I shot my first with a KNight all lead 240g saboted bullet, and it fell right over like the old guy riding a trike with a black coat on Rowan and Marin's laugh-in. Slow motion just tipped over. I had never had that happen to a deer before. When I saw the hole in and on the off sideI knew why. Big wide deer holes with expanded big bullets kill very effectively and very fast. I was amazed.

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I think you will find them excellent, for Terminal Performane for close shots (<150 yards with 3" high at 100). They worked great in my Savage with a Crushed Rib sabot. I just ordered my 2nd box, but have not taken game with them yet, since only have 1 scope and need to keep that adjusted with my current hunting load. 45/70 bullets are the ticket in these 50 cal MLers, not the pistol bullets, the Gold Dots can handle the heat. The 45/70 are in the same velocity range as the MLers therefore great performance. Please see these reviews:

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[/align]Robert Riedel of Saucier, MS
[/align]Date Posted: 12/8/2008
[/align]Tried these and several other bullets in my new #1 sporter Shiloh Sharps. Groups were very tight with several holes touching at 100 yards. All bullets seem to shoot to the same point of impact with this gun but these bullets were very close groups. With RL-7, starline brass, CCI 200 large rifle primers and these bullets I took my first whitetail. It was a doe but I was in shock when the deer crumpled like I hit it in the head with a 10lb sledge hammer. Exit hole looked so bad I thought I was going to be sick and I have killed my share of deer. Definitely will load more of these. Case head expansion 3/16" above the rim was .501 so I would increase load but seated to the top cannelure it is a compressed load. Love this bullet!!!!
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[/align]Greg Lane of Bakersfield, CA
[/align]Date Posted: 2/7/2005
[/align]I have found this to be an excellent bullet in my Guide Gun. It is accurate(clover leaf groups at 100 yards), relatively flat shooting for the practical hunting ranges used. It penetrates and expands perfectly, retaining almost all of its weight. I shot a 6 foot Black bear in the chest, bullet was just under the hide on the back leg. A real preformer for the 45/70.
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[/align]Scott Childress of Dallas, TX
[/align]Date Posted: 12/22/2003
[/align]This is the equivalent of installing Twin Turbochargers on a Corvette!! They are not flat nose but rather Extreme Hollow Points with a "flat nose" shape that makes them safe for use in a tubular magazine. It defines "KNOCK DOWN" power!! Highly recommend using a Lee Factory Crimp Die. Especially when reloading this cartridge, due to the recoil generated when approaching MAX LOADS. The last deer I shot, in the shoulder, actually flipped in the air before coming to its final rest a hundred or so yards away!! ---NOT FOR THE MEEK!!!
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You don't have to load them hot, 100g of BH or 777 is plenty for excellent performance. Chap