ORIGINAL: sammy_tat
ORIGINAL: WCO R.W.J
Some money comes in from people that illegally use semi's on the trap line.
Timber and mineral rights alsobut the lion share comes from hunters but it doesnt change our mission that covers all wildlife. IF hunters no longer want to foot the bill for conservation the general fund will and we all know how well thats working out for bear hunters in NJ and bird hunters in NY.
Again hunting and trapping do not apply the same laws. Again if I am allowed to kill a trapped animal in my trap on sunday and am not allowed to hunt that same animal on sunday,that tells me that a trappedanimal is nothunting and the laws are different. You can't say that hunting and trapping is the same and go by the same laws. Would a trap animal fall under the catogory of fairchase also? I don't think that would be considered a fair chase while the animal can't run or hide. To shoot an animal in a trap would be illegal also then. Whats so fair about walking up to an animal in a trap and shooting it? But we have fairchase laws don't we?
Putting animals back in PA that became non existance should not been the priority. The animals that was left here was what the funds was for I would of thought. Do you think that if hunters knew that their money wasn't priority for the game they hunt that they would pay for a license? I don't think so. The money by hunters was for their animals and not for everything that wasn't here. How many would buy a license if it wasn't for their sport? Animals for hunters to hunt should be the number 1 priority and the satisfaction of hunters wants should come first. Again what part of that don't you people understand? Hunters need animals to hunt and pay a fee to hunt these animals. PGC job is to provide these animals and are not doing a very good job of it.
What are elk for? I mean serious? Is everyone going to able to hunt these animals one day in PA? I don't think so. How many people actually care if we have elk in PA? If I can't hunt them what good are they? And there is no way everyone will be able to hunt them in the future without a raffle on them. If the so called deer herd can't survive with how many deer how is an animal 4 + the same size as deer that feed the same as deer going to survive in large numbers? It don't make sense with what is going on in our state.
Here is the posted law.
Sec. 102. Definitions.
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Hunt" or "
hunting." Any act or furtherance of the taking or killing of any game or wildlife, or any part or product thereof, and includes, but is not limited to, chasing, tracking, calling, pursuing, lying in wait,
trapping, shooting at, including shooting at a game or wildlife facsimile, or wounding with any weapon or implement, or using any personal property, including dogs, or the property of others, of any nature, in furtherance of any of these purposes, or aiding, abetting or conspiring with another person in that purpose.
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Take." To harass, pursue, hunt for, shoot, wound, kill,
trap, capture, possess or collect any game or wildlife, including shooting at a facsimile of game or wildlife or attempt to harass, pursue, hunt for, shoot, wound, kill, trap, capture or collect any game or wildlife or aiding, abetting or conspiring with another person in that purpose.
Sec. 2322. Prohibited devices and methods.
(a) General rule. - Except as otherwise provided in this title or commission regulation, no person shall
hunt, kill or take or attempt, aid, abet, assist or conspire to hunt, kill or take any big game, except wild turkey, with any of the following devices or methods:
(2) Any automatic or semiautomatic firearm, except that any semiautomatic firearm modified to permit one shell in the chamber and no more than four shells in a magazine may be used by a person who suffered an amputation or lost the total use of one or both hands.