I have enough setups (hang ons and ladders) now that I don't use my climber too much anymore. The only time I use it is when I venture to a new piece of land or see something where I want to go mobile on my main land. I'm not real crazy about them to be honest. They are nice and do have their place. You can't argue with their mobility. But if you have enough setups around your land you are already "mobile" so to speak. It's not really even the work of lugging it in and out that bothers me. I really don't like the sound factor. I don't like the extra time you have to allow to unpack.. get up...get down... pack it up. I'd rather slither up some sticks or a ladder and be hunting in 10 seconds. No noise. No chance of metal banging.No nothing. Also you don't know exactly what you'll be looking at when you reach your destination. I like to take a peak at my shooting lanes and know where I have shot opportunities before hand. I've climbed a lot of trees in my time with my viper only to sit there wondering what the hell I'm doing here right now [8D].