Really great posts on my quest for a new crossbow. After vewing froum posts, hunter reviews and talking with manufacturing engineers of 6 companies, I believe I might try the Excalibur Vortex. It has a 200 pound draw weight which means I can use it in Ohio and NC (must have a doctors permission slip in NC for X-Bow - rotator cuff surgery) where I hunt. I like the recurve design (simple) and it is very quite. Thanks much.