I just picked up some judo tips from sportsmans warehouse today. They were on sale for $5.99 for two of them so I couldn't pass em up. I'll be heading out sometime after Christmas to try em out so I'll let you know how they do. Here's a couple of pics so you can see my setup. I don't have a recurve so my 32" compound will have to do. I don't think I could hit the broad side of a barn with a recurve anyway.