I tell you what, I shot with an outfitter in S. Illinois last season, and he was undoubtbly the best shot I' ve ever seen. I' m not bad, not great either. I can consistently hit in 6 inch circles from 30 yards. This guy put four arrows in a four inch circle for 55 yards. He did say it was the best he' d done from that distance. I would' nt beleive it if I was' nt standing next to him. He told me he hit the first one right on, and the next few were just auotmatic. He had the feeling of what the first one felt like, and that was it. Very impressive. He was shooting a brand new Mathews Legacy, with Easton Aluminums, and 125 grain field points. He was fun to watch. He also has three deer on his wall over 160" , I rather have those!!!!