Thanks stalkingbear,I didn't take it as an insult.I am not one who just shoots at any animal at any range,I carefully take time to judge the situation and use my nikon range finder several times to make sure it reads the same everytime.I just think that at 350+ I am pushing the ethical range of the calibers due to their rapid loss of energy at those ranges so I decided to step up to the 300win mag and be able to retain enough energy to make an ethical kill with proper shot placement out past 500 yards or so the beanfeilds I hunt in butler county have someplaces that are 1000yards across and stalking across a cut beanfield isn't always an option.The hunting I will be doing is from a benchrest stand with sandbags and from the ground not half rested shots from a treestand.so hopefully this rifle will get sub-moa with a little work and practice from me.thanks.