This argument is getting a little redundant. But some of you are adding things into that argument that we didn't nessesarily say. We don't kill every 1.5 old that is a spike or every 2.5 year old with a small rack. We trophie hunt all year, take a good doe and a buck that we think will not amount to much or that is already older that is sporting a week rack. Like I said before, if a buck like what was originally posted a 3.5 old with nothing to show and I don't think he has good genes we will take him if we can since the 3.5 and up bucks do most of the breeding in our area. Deer in our area don't travel far, they winter in our area, we see the bucks all year around. We also keep track of bucks and see them the following years and we happen to see racks that are trendy in the area like GregH mentioned. We have had some racks from bucks that are 10s and have abnormal tine length even when the deer matures to 5.5 years old. I believe if we could have taken this ten with short tines when he was 3.5 there would be less of his genes around that we are seeing in deer. We also have genes of deer that have split g2's and split brows that grow to be very big within 3.5 years old. We find our area is very controlled genetically because of the racks that we see. I've hunted in big woods areas where the area is not controlled at all and you don't see that same deer twice sometimes. That is the oposite of our area. If you don't think this would work in your area then why disagree if we are seeing it work in our hunting area? Like I said, sudies are done, but they do not relate to every area.Is the study done withthe same type ofdeer herd or ratio of bucks to does?

For the doctor analogy, don't be rediculous. I've had two doctors look at my back andmy xray and tell me my back was fine and I needed physical therapy because it was muscles. Well I got a second opinion, wella docotors that apparently new whathe was doing found a larg crack in my 4th lumbar joint in about 1 min. Goes to show if I was like some you guys and though ever doctor was god I would have suffered alot more without a second opinion.So lets justkeep the analogies out of it. I just don't believe everything I read and I know I don't know everything about my proffession and I will never claim to.

Im telling you this has worked in our area, and I believe it has in others as well. It might not in your area, Im sorry.....k. Like GregH said he has a trend of larg 7 points in his area. If he would have tried to take out a couple of those 3.5 year old 7's when he started to notice them, he would have had other mature deer breeding those does.