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Old 12-17-2008, 10:30 PM
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Bluebird2 this is a new low even for you. You have now devoted several pages to your completely irrational distortion of Gregs act of sportsmanship. He first triedto free that buck./ Then he enlisted the local WCO. When the bucks fate was determined to be doomed by that WCO. He then sawto it that nothing was wasted and made a personal sacrifice to do that. He didwhat he didin the presence of, under the direction of, and with permission of the local WCO. Your attempts to distort an act that any sportsman should applaud is simply pathetic.

NUFF SAID!!

You care nothing for the sport. Your "sport" is to get on this and other forums and spend your days attempting to libel and slander the PGC and anyone else who disagrees with your demands that we return PA to the management style ofone big public deer farm.
There is nothing sporting in tagging a WCO dispatched deer. Sporting implies fair chase and our hunter in this story had no legal or ethical obligations toclaim thatdeer. Also....what is your definition of wasted? If this deer had provided nourishment to scavengers, microorganisms, and plants in his death, then exactly what is wasted other than our own ideology of a trophy set of antlers, or tender backstraps? Why have we seemed to have lost sight of the natural processes at work, outside of our own human influences. To claim that deer would have been wasted is no better than the tree hugger soccer mom that wants the WCO to dispatch a coyote because she and her kids watched it drag down a fawn and basically eat it alive. Animals die every day in the forest, and NOTHING is wasted in nature. I'm not pointing a finger of accusation, if the WCO authorized him to tag the deer, then I guess he is not at fault, but let's not put him on a pedestal and applaud him as some kind of coservationist hero for sacrificing his tag for some greater good. No one needed to tag the deer. The PGC estimates a certain perecntage of natural mortality each year, in their management models. Perhaps if we are looking for a definition of sportsmanship, it would be the hunterthat mortally wounds, but fails to recover his deer, to claim the kill, as the law entitles him to only one deer killed per tag....regardless of the fact that the deer was not recovered by the hunter. Theoretically if each hunter who purchased an antlerless tag killed, but failed to recover one deer before killing and tagging an animal, the harvest could greatly exceed the actual goal and severely affect the mgt program. This would be much more "sporting" than tagging a roadkill or victim of other circumstantial mortality.
You seem to have been drinking some of BB2's Koolaid. Of course it wasn't "sporting" I said it was an act of good sportsmanship.

Here's Websters definition of sportsmanship:

Main Entry:
sports·man·ship
Pronunciation:
\-ˌship\
Function:
noun
Date:
1745
: conduct (as fairness, respect for one's opponent, and graciousness in winning or losing) becoming to one participating in a sport

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[/align]Lets see, fairness, respect for ones opponent and graciousness in winning or losing...


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[/align]Fairness....Greg chose not to take advantage of his quarry when he found it in a defenseless situation and he instead tried to free the deer to be hunted another day.


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[/align]respect for ones opponenet.....I can think of no greater demonstration of respect for one's opponent, than to make sure that a valuable animal is utilized,treated with respectand honored.


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[/align]graciousness in winning or losing....There was no winner in the outcome of this situation. Greg showed graciousness nonetheless.


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[/align]As for your "nothing is wasted in nature" BS, you are , of course, technically correct but in the context of the actual events as they occured, that's the kind thinking that we'd expect to find on a PETA website. In any other context or if it were your buddy BB for example, I doubt you'd suggest that what Greg did was no betterthan leavingthe deer to feed the scavengers, bugs, and microrganisms


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[/align]Lets recognize BB2's posts and yours on this subjectfor what they really are. They are nothing more than petty rationalizations in order to make a personal attack on an individual with whom you happen to disagree on another issue.


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I'm sorry for you if you interpret my posts in this manner. I have always welcomed any opposing argument on any issue. Just because I tend to agree wth BB on several issues, you seem to have the idea that we are ol drinking buddies or something. I've never actually met the man or even conversed with him in any means other than a keypad. So what...I guess you and livbucks must have been co captains of the prep school cheerleading squad using that logic. I don't thnk Livbucks did anything wrong as the WCO authorized his actions. Likewise I think your endless praise and bestowing of sportsman of the year title is ridiculous. That has NOTHING to do with any previous or future argument about deer mgt in PA.
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