Hay Bigcountry I thought I was the only one out there that got them self in trouble on this sight. You know like the long range shooting thread I started. I have to stick up for you these guys seem to be ganging up on you. It is the new Remingtons that keep me busy between custom rifles jobs. I do wish Remington would increase their quality for the past few years it has not been what it should be and I can only work so fast. If their new guns go down hill any more I will have to hire someone. For the most part I am with you on this. Most people I know would rather pay alittle more and get a good product then save a few bucks and get problems. Remington seems to forget this and also seems to be of the opinion that tha American and Canadian hunters will not notice the difference in quality, I think they are wrong. If they want to cut costs and make more money maby they should get rid of the big wigs who made the decision to cheepen the quality of their guns.