rybo, i hear ya! instead of criticizing his methods and telling him what hes been doing for 30 or 40 years is wrong, i had him teach me how to skin the heads and how to boil them....all i need is a place to boil them and i'll be able to do my own...not hard, but its nice to have someone show you the steps and process first hand....his method works....i just dont like the bleach and the way he bleaches...

i dont know how long it takes to break the bone down bad enough that it falls apart...he has some one his wall that are probably 20 years old...

if nothing else, i'll boil them at his place and whiten them myself...but, i think i can find me an outdoor burner that will work perfect and not stink up the house....