Uncle Dave, I have a pre-64 Winchester model 70. the scope is a weaver 4-16. I got it (the scope) when i lived out west for those long shots. It is a little too big for around here, but i can turn it down. The .270 is a great all around gun. you can load a 90 or 100 gr bullet hot enough to make a real good varmet round. Yep, it may be a little big, but look at the benefits. 3 crows with one shot try that with a .223.